April 19th, 2007

Excellent New York Times article on the efforts to encourage more women in the computer science field. Of the approaches, a couple are looking at how the computer technologies are really becoming pervasive to all fields, and the further such technologies move away from the 'geek looking into his computer all day' image, the more women.

The points made are excellent: whatever happens with women today will also impact on men, tomorrow. So if we're seeing a decline in women with the skills, we're also seeing a growing decline of men with the same skills. I'm not sure if women are the 'canary in the mines', but it's an interesting way of looking at it.

If we do make up over half of computer users, it is imperative that companies employ women for positions directly associated with the technology. Not secondary, not management, and god forbid, not marketing and human resources–women associated with the creating and building of the technology.

Geez, why is this one so hard to communicate?

(Thanks to Michael Bernstein for the link.)

This reflects much of what I wrote about some time ago, about the tech field being broken.

Comments
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Corvida - 7:09 pm 4/19/2007

As a black, female, CSC major, I can see why people don't want to go into CS. For one, my school is definitely focused soley on programming, which I am not. This is very discouraging, but I've invested time and lots of money. I'm going to get my BS and just do grad school in another direction. If you read my blog, you'll see that I'm way more interested in the internet and REVIEWING applications rather than making them. I just finished a program and quite frankly, I just don't like Java. However, I do plan on learning more about CSS, HTML, XHTML, PHP, AJAX (if I have time), over the summer. The internet is what interests me and I love to fix computers and find out why someone's computer isn't working. I could care less about the coding though.

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Shelley - 8:35 pm 4/19/2007

Corvida, it does sound like the programs are specifically addressing that not all people who want to work with the web or computers or technology want to program–or use the same set of tools the same way.

I liked to program, but realize that not everyone does. On the other hand, the hardware has never been something I like to tweak.

It's unfortunate that your experience hasn't been the happiest for you.

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Bud Gibson - 7:07 am 4/20/2007

Part of the canary in the coal mine issue is that there is a divide between the algorithmically oriented folks and intuitively oriented folks. They push each other apart. Add to that the continuous bane of tradition in academia.

The problem might just be that the academic field is becoming more and more gray and their way of expressing themselves was always a little out of touch anyhow.

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Corvida, there are lots of ways to be a good programmer, and not all of them involve Java. (Thank God.) If you drop me a note about what parts of Java (or other things in the CS curriculum) annoy you the most, I might have some ideas for other things to look into.

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Shelley, it is so hard to communicate because too many folks have a vested interest in not understanding. Now where ius that quote…

It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it

And you're welcome. ;-)

Corvida, I don't like Java either. It always makes me feel like I'm using an atom-smasher to crack an egg. That said, I don't really like PHP either, as it makes me feel like I'm trying to do macramé with wet spaghetti. My tool of choice is Python.

Bud, the growing divide between algorithmists and intuitives is a very interesting observation.

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Charles - 11:23 am 4/21/2007

When I started taking comp sci classes in the 1970s, I could see immediately from the low proportion of women that this was a hostile environment for everybody. The few women that rose up the ranks were still relegated to subsidiary tasks like running the typing pool (which in this case was IBM card punch systems). They were isolated from all the cool new tech stuff happening. And if it was that easy to exclude women, I figured it would also be easy to exclude subversive artist computer graphics geeks like me. I was right.
But I visited the old CS department recently, and noticed that a few women that used to be secretaries and typists were still there after 30 years, and are now department heads.

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Shelley - 4:05 pm 4/21/2007

Women and subversive artist computer graphics geeks have more in common than not.

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