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Technology

NotWiki

Recovered from the Wayback Machine.

Liz wrote a great note on the recent and growing pushback against the use of the Wiki for Pie/Echo/Atom, based in part on a discussion at Phil’s and a posting over at Sam’s.

Liz’s summary hits all the points:

I’m not yet at the point where I see wikis as adding sufficient value to any process I’m involved with to justify the installation, configuration, and learning curve for users necessary to add another tool to my social software arsenal. Like Phil, I continue to be troubled by the inherent ahistoricism built into the wiki environment; like Shelley I find the lack of social cues to tell me if I’m treading on someone’s toes by changing content to be inhibiting; like Dare, I find that large-scale active wikis are often too chaotic and disorganized, making it difficult for me to find what I’m looking for.

I had concerns about the wiki in the beginning because I wanted to get non-techs involved. Yes, the techs will have to build the tools, but tools are only as good as the people who use them, and I wanted others to have a voice. And face it – Wiki has a real geek feel to it that’s not necessarily inviting to the non-geeks.

Still, I participated originally, focusing in my area of expertise – the data model. It seems as if I had just started and then turned around and realized the work had zoomed right past while I wasn’t looking.

Okay, so I tried again, taking a snapshot and writing about the effort in a nutshell, and I figured I’d help contribute to the effort by doing this once a week or so – until the next week when I realized that there had been so much work, so much activity, that a snapshot wasn’t feasible. Of if it was, I wasn’t the person to provide it. The parade had passed by.

Wikis are a fascinating device, and I admire Sam wanting to get input from the world at large by using a wiki. He actually didn’t have much choice: he’d been warned what would happen if the Big Blog Tools met behind closed doors and just threw specs over a tall, tall wall.

But there’s got to be a happy medium between total control, personal ownership, and closed doors on the one hand; and a digital foodfight and freeforall that is the Wiki on the other.

Wikis favor the aggressive, the obsessive, and the compulsive: aggressive to edit or delete others work; obsessive to keep up with the changes; and compulsive to keep pick, pick, picking at the pages, until there’s dozens of dinky little edits everyday, and thousands of dinky little offshoot pages. And name choices like “BarbWire”.

(BarbWire. Good God. Let’s get pipes and hose and find the original Echo trademark holders and give them an offer they can’t refuse to let the trademark go.)

But Wikis also favor enormous amounts of collaboration among a pretty disparate crew, which is why there’s also all sorts of feeds being tested, and APIs being explored, and a data model that everyone feels pretty darn good about. So one can also say that Wikis favor the motivated, the dedicated, and the determined.

What we need now is a hold moment. We need to put this effort into Pause, and to look around at the devastation and figure what to keep and what to move aside; and to document the effort, and its history, for the folks who have pulled away from the Wiki because of the atmosphere. We need to do this for the techs and non-techs alike, because I’m pretty sure some technical decisions were made that are not going to make a lot of current webloggers happy if I’ve read some of the copy at the wiki correctly.

We need to record what’s been accomplished in a non-perishable (i.e. not editable), human manner. No Internet standard specification format. Words. Real ones. We then need to give people a chance to comment on this work, but not in the Wiki. Or not only in the wiki. Document the material in one spot – a weblog. After all, this is about weblogging – doesn’t it make sense that we start moving this into the weblogging world again? Not bunches of weblogs, with bits and pieces.

One weblog. Limited author access.

We need to get more people involved then a small core group and if this means using different mediums of communication and even – perish the thought – slowing down a bit, then slow down. Mediums that have history so those late to the party aren’t left out in the cold. This means not wiki, not IRC.

We also need another stated commitment from the stakeholders in all of this, the aforementioned Big Blog Tool makers, that they are still supporting this effort’s output. A lot’s happened between then and now.

Most of all, we need to ungeek Pie/Echo/Atom – start channeling this effort into a more controlled environment, with open communication, yes, but less movement, and more deliberation. I’m not saying give one person control, but we need to start identifying those with the most to gain and lose by this effort, those who are most impacted, and we need to start pulling them into a consortium. A weblogging consortium.

(Now, where have I heard that before?)

But here’s the kicker – include the non-tech webloggers, too. You know, the people that don’t get excited because Python 2.3 released?

Sam mentioned in a new post that I hadn’t contributed much in the last month because I was too busy. Because of this, he said the medium wouldn’t have mattered in my overall contribution. But that’s not the story, Sam.

My lack of recent contribution wasn’t that I was too busy for the Wiki effort; it was because the Wiki effort was too busy for me.

P.S. A new name suggestion for Pie/Echo/Atom – let’s just call it Pie/Echo/Atom.

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Burningbird Technology Weblogging

Two down, three to go

Recovered from the Wayback Machine.

I’ve installed two weblogs in the For Poets site:

Linux for Poets – maintained by the freebie pMachine installation.

Internet for Poets – maintained by WordPress an open source weblogging tool.

Both support comments and trackbacks, and both weblogs feature the look and feel straight out of the box.

I couldn’t install Blojsom, based on RDF and Jena because it requires a Java servlet container and I don’t want to install Tomcat. In addition bBlog was a little too beta, and Bloxsom a little too simplified, especially since I’m reviewing tools for non-techs. However, may change my mind and go with Bloxsom.

To look for other weblogging tools to use, I spent some time randomly clicking on weblogs in weblogs.com. Interesting results:

  • There are a lot of people using Movable Type. A lot. And there’s something about many of the MT sites that look similar – I could tell a MT site as soon as it opened, without looking for the MT banner. Regardless, I can see why Six Apart got VC funding – there are a lot of people that use MT.
  • Still lots of Blogger and BloggerPro sites – but no where near the number of MT users.
  • Light grey text and a slightly darker grey background is not elegant – it’s unreadable
  • Please don’t show pictures of your rash
  • Is that legal?
  • Where are the Radio weblogs?
  • No AOL or LiveJournal – they don’t ping weblogs.com?
  • Some people are just plain tacky, especially in what they allow advertised at their weblogs. Dirt cheap ammo? Now guess what type of weblog I found this one one.
  • Is this photo for real? Looks retouched. Still kinda cool.
  • Ve are Movable Type and all your weblogs belonga us!
  • Larry using Bloxsom – I think I’ll give this another shot. At least it’s not MT.
  • What the world needs more of – diagonal weblogs
  • Why do people stick these things all over their weblogs? Weblog after weblog with very little text, but lots of empty space and little buttons and tiny people and graphics and hearts and flowers and quizzes and mood indicators and other things that are anything but writing. It’s as if their weblogs are only wire frames on which to poke bits of string and tinsel and colored ribbon. Do they weblog only as a placeholder? A way of saying, “I stake this space?”
  • Oh, there’s a LiveJournal.
  • Great come back for a complaint on style – cement canoes
  • 0xDECAFBAD also uses Bloxsom – okay, I’m convinced. Dorothea, he’s quoting your weblog.
  • Hey! Bloomington, Indiana library won’t install porn filters. Good on you Bloomington.
  • There was a war of the weblogging tools, and the squirrels won
  • There’s Tinderbox – nope, not at 145.00
  • Ohmigod! Pink! With little sprinkly, glittery things all over. I’ll take the grey on grey
  • Finally! here’s a Radio weblog! It’s called “Blogging Alone”. No shit.
  • What is Blogstreet? Am I on the list? No? Then who cares. I found this at the Agonist – wasn’t this the weblog that was accused of plagiarism? Yup, that’s what it takes to be a top weblog.
  • That’s a great name for a weblog Opinions you should have
  • I’m dying to know what this weblog is talking about – but scroll down – isn’t the flower photo nice?
  • From Ozark Rambler:

     

    For those I haven’t spoken to lately, “herself” is doing very well and “on the mend” following her surgery a month ago. Your prayers and support during the past month has been very much appreciated.

    She’s not quite up to doing any “plowing or mowing” yet, but then, those of you who know her realize that she wasn’t to excited about participating in those activities anyway. come to think of it, they don’t excite me much either.

    Thank you Ozark Rambler for you simple tales of berrying in chigger filled woods, for your sharing, your humor, your interesting political views and Orwellian quotes, and for reminding me that there is more to weblogging than Echo/Atom/RSS and fights between silly boys.

A productive exercise, one I recommend people do weekly. I didn’t find all the weblogging tools I needed, but I found something more important: perspective.

Categories
Browsers

Good-bye Netscape

In the golden age of the Internet, Netscape was the darling, the poster child for the Dot Com Boom. My first server-side development effort was based in Netscape’s LiveWire technology, which eventually went on to become the Netscape Application Server. My second book I wrote was on Netscape’s JavaScript.

My interest in RDF started because of the use of RDF within the early implementations of Mozilla. I defended Mozilla when others criticized it. I pushed back at the drive for standards when people used this to question Mozilla’s direction.

A member of the Mozilla team, a Netscape employee, made a trip to a hotel I was staying at for a conference to leave me a T-Shirt as a thank you for my support.

Mozilla will stay but Netscape is gone. This is the true end of the Dot Com era. This is when we know that not only is the roller coaster ride finished, but the roller coaster itself has been closed down for being a little too fast, and a bit too scary.

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Web

One of those days?

Have you ever had one of those days?

One of those days when you’re faced with trying to get a whole bunch of moving parts working together such as on a web server, and there’s a hundred million possible combinations of Things you Can Do, but only one works?

And have you had one of those days when all combinations of Things don’t seem to work and you find yourself getting really angry at, in order:

  • The ISP
  • The creators of each of the technologies
  • Tim Berners-Lee for starting all of this
  • Edison for inventing electricity
  • Galileo for insisting the world revolves around the sun, thus opening the door to science, leading to an increased interest in technology
  • Your parents for having you
  • President Bush, because you’re always angry at President Bush

Have you ever had one of those days when you realize that the solution is doing this little tweak here, and that tiny one there, all nicely documented in the installation and configuration instructions – which you decided NOT to read, and which would have only taken about an hour and you’ve spent probably three days doing it the hard way?

Have you had one of those days when you realize this and you spend the next hour BASHING YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL for being so stupid?

I’m not saying I’ve had one of those days. Just asking if you have had one of those days.

Excuse me, but I have a headache. I’m going to bed now. No, no! I know the way. Thank you.

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Technology Web

Even servers take vacations

I was able to add SMTP authentication to my installed mail system, which means people will have to log in to send email as well as receive it. This should thwart the misbegotten sons of diseased camels that are spammers.

I found that the Wayward Weblogger co-op isn’t the only server that had some technical difficulties yesterday. When I went to visit Dare Obasanjo’s weblog, I found this wonderful system message:

K5 is on vacation for the day

Yesterday those of you who were around might recall seeing the site down or really slow for a good chunk of the day. There were some database problems, then a really bizarre thing with the Scoop servers which was solved by rebooting them, but after the reboot one came back up without sshd running so I can’t get in to configure it, and then some kind person decided to DoS us mildly. Oh, and I upgraded the database somewhere in there too.

So we’re on one Scoop server at the moment, and the database really needs to be archived more. I wrote a script to do archiving a lot faster, but it needs to run for a while, and it’s 4AM here and what with everything else I think I’m just calling today a maintenance day so I can go to bed.

It’s summer, and I’m sure many of you have things you’ve been meaning to get to. So now’s the time. Enjoy your K5 vacation day, and we’ll see you bright and early on Wednesday.

–rusty

This is about the best description of a server problem – no holding back the details – followed by the best philosophy to take in these situations:

Here’s the problem. Here’s what we’re doing. In the meantime – I have a life, you have a life, these things happen, and don’t you have something fun to do, instead?

This just became the official policy at the Wayward Weblogger co-op.